Why would GOD say these things in the Quran?

Why would GOD say these things in the Quran?

Selam Aleykum,

My name is Ismael & I am here to discuss this issue because it is in the Quran.
My Question is this, why would God give virgin girls in Heaven when if the muslims want to, can have them here on Earth?!

Also why would God reward muslims like that? It does not make any sense, comon guys, lets be honest. I am waiting for any muslim to answer me these simple questions.

1- Why girls in Heaven? What is it that God gets out of it?
2- How do you get those girls? Do you have to earn them? How?

[b]An-Naba 78:31-31So taste (of that which ye have earned). No increase do We give you save of torment. (30) Lo! for the duteous is achievement - (31) Gardens enclosed and vineyards, (32) And maidens of companions; (33)

Al-Insan 76:19There, serve them youths of ever lasting youths, whom, when thou seest, thou wouldst take for scattered pearls. (19) When thou seest, thou wilt see there bliss and high estate. (20) 

Ar-Rahman 55:56
Which is it, of the favours of your Lord, that ye deny? (55) Therein are those of modest gaze, whom neither man nor jinni will have touched before them. (56) Which is it, of the favours of your Lord, that ye deny? (57)

Ad-Dukhan 44:53-54Attired in silk and silk embroidery, facing one another. (53) Even so (it will be). And We shall wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes. (54)

As-Saaffat 37:46-48White, delicious to the drinkers, (46) Wherein there is no headache nor are they made mad thereby. (47) And with them are those of modest gaze, with lovely eyes, (48)

Al-Waqia 56:19-24Wherefrom they get no aching of the head nor any madness, (19) And fruit that they prefer (20) And flesh of fowls that they desire. (21) And (there are) fair ones with wide, lovely eyes, (22) Like unto hidden pearls, (23) Reward for what they used to do. (24)

Waiting for your answers.

Edited by: Fodmin - Feb-16-11 16:20:09

The only thing necessary for the triump of evil is for good man to do nothing.
By Edmund Burke.

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Re: Why would GOD say these things in the Quran?

Selam Aleykum,

wa'laikom assalam

why would God give virgin girls in Heaven when if the muslims want to, can have them here on Earth?!
Also why would God reward muslims like that? It does not make any sense, comon guys, lets be honest. I am waiting for any muslim to answer me these simple questions.

54. So (it will be), and We shall marry them to Houris (female fair ones) with wide, lovely eyes.' Ad-Dukhan

'124. And whoever does righteous good deeds, male or female, and is a true believer in the Oneness of Allah (Muslim), such will enter Paradise and not the least injustice, even to the size of a Naqira (speck on the back of a date-stone), will be done to them.'Surat Annisaa'
1-please focus on red sentences: Jabir reported:
I heard Allah's messenger as saying that the inmates of Paradise would eat and drink but would neither spit, nor pass water, nor void excrement, nor suffer catarrah. It was said: Then, what would happen with food? Thereupon he said: They would belch and sweat (and it would be over with their food), and their sweat would be that of musk and they would glorify and praise Allah as easily as you breathe. SAHIH Muslim
Souhayb (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated that the Prophet said: « When those deserving of Paradise would enter Paradise, Allah would ask: Do you wish Me to give you anything more? They would say: Hast Thou not brightened our faces? Hast Thou not made us enter Paradise and saved us from Fire?
He (the narrator) said: He (Allah) would lift the veil, and of things given to them nothing would he dearer to them than the sight of Allah ».SAHIH Muslim

2-the relation between Hur Ein (the girls which you mentioned) and their partners is a pure  marriage, Allah described it :
'54. So (it will be), and We shall marry them to Houris (female fair ones) with wide, lovely eyes.' Ad-Dukhan
"And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquillity with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for those who reflect.  (The Noble Quran, 30:21)"

3- On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
Allah said: I have prepared for My righteous servants what no eye has seen and no ear has heard, not has it occurred to human heart.
'...the inmates of Paradise would eat and drink but would neither spit, nor pass water, nor void excrement'Sahih Muslim
'47. "And We shall remove from their breasts any sense of injury (that they may have), (So they will be like) brothers facing each other on thrones.' The noble Quraan, Surat  Al-Hijr

4- if you are christian and claim that you are muslim, i would like to remind you Genesis Chapter 2 24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh' the biblke claimed that God said this in garden of Edin.
Genesis Chapter 3 17And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
WHERE DID THEY EAT? WAS NOT IN garden of aden?

and i would like to remind you that you think  your god's mother  married ab old man @Joseph @ , so when they both die, will they be separated in God's kingdom? or will be stay married there? will he divorce her thre? but divorce is forbidden ?
whats about Matthew Chapter 19 29And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

maybe you will say : 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
ok read the context :Matthew 22 :28Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.'
i think you understand what it means!
let us back to 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
hmmm 'but are as he angels of God' but in Genesis Chapter 6  2That the sons of God (angels)saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

85. Everyone shall taste death. And only on the Day of Resurrection shall you be paid your wages in full. And whoever is removed away from the Fire (hell) and admitted to Paradise, he indeed is successful. The life of this world is only the enjoyment of deception (a deceiving thing).' quraan, meanin

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Re: Why would GOD say these things in the Quran?

Mr. Passenger,

Your understanding of Christianity is wrong totally.
I used to be a Muslim, also in the Quran marriage does not really exist, it means Nikah, if you do your research Nikah means temporary marriage, which means you use her for your pleasure and when you sick of her you give her up!

The virgins in Heaven are not one, there is allot of them infact minimum 72 to over a 100 virgins, which always stay virgins! That means if you have sexual intercourse with them, they become virgin again!
Also you have to remember that these girls are prepared from Allah for the pleasure of Muslim man.

So you believe in Virgins girls that Allah has in Heaven, but can't believe that he can have only one SON?

The only thing necessary for the triump of evil is for good man to do nothing.
By Edmund Burke.

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Re: Why would GOD say these things in the Quran?

Ismael King wrote:

I used to be a Muslim

the claims are easily .and God will judge between us.by the way, my wife is ex christian.

Ismael King wrote:

also in the Quran marriage does not really exist, it means Nikah, if you do your research Nikah means temporary marriage, which means you use her for your pleasure and when you sick of her you give her up!

"Nikah" is a proper and not offensive word to use :
Source: http://www.ectaco.co.uk/main.jsp?do=e-s … e=marriage

also visit http://www.stars21.com/index.html?pname … ricantrans and type in "marriage" and have it translated into Arabic and you will find the word "Nikah" there.
It is true that "Nikah" could sometimes also refer to sexual intercourse but ook at how this word is used throughout the Quraan surat albaqarah  : it seems pretty clear that the word is referring to marriage:
221. And do not marry (tankihoo) Al-Mushrikat (idolatresses, etc.) till they believe (worship Allah Alone). And indeed a slave woman who believes is better than a (free) Mushrikah (idolatress, etc.), even though she pleases you. Nor marry (tunkihoo) (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater, etc.), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikun) invite you to the Fire, but Allah invites (you) to Paradise and Forgiveness by His Leave, and makes His Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to mankind that they may remember. '
'And if ye divorce them before consummation, but after the fixation of a dower for them, then the half of the dower (Is due to them), unless they remit it or (the man's half) is remitted by him in whose hands is the marriage (alnnikahi) tie; and the remission (of the man's half) is the nearest to righteousness. And do not forget Liberality between yourselves. For God sees well all that ye do.'2:237

Ismael King wrote:

Nikah means temporary marriage

are you sure that you are ex muslim hmm if you were Shiite is different!
your bible Exodus 22:"16 If a man seduces a virgin who is not engaged, he must pay the bride price for her and marry her. 17 But if her father refuses to let him marry her, he must pay the father a sum of money equal to the bride price for a virgin."
Bible's OT :16 If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife.
17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.

Ali b. Abi Talib reported that ALLAH'S MESSENGER (MAY PEACE BE UPON HIM) FORBADE ON THE DAY OF KHAIBAR TEMPORARY MARRIAGE (MUTA') WITH WOMEN and the eating of the flesh of domestic asses


Ismael King wrote:

The virgins in Heaven are not one, there is allot of them infact minimum 72 to over a 100 virgins, which always stay virgins!

where is they are 100.Muslim, Book 21, Number 4763give me any authentic hadith abou it.but about 72 it belongs to the shaheed as i know .however King Solomon is said to have had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kings 11:3And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart.) Also, king David is said to have had many wives and concubines (2 Samuel 5:13).
2 Samuel 12 :8 :
"Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."
Hmm
" and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things"

in the hymns of the fourth century Syriac Church Father St. Ephraim (spellings vary), entitled: “Hymns on Paradise”.
ًSt. Ephraim, in explicit sexual connotation, evoked the welcoming femininity of the heavenly “vines” (“gupna“, grammatically feminine in Syriac), which were to take to their immaculate bosoms the aged monks, whose life of abstinence had never known the earthly loves and tenderness.

Thus we read in the strophy 18:

Whoever has abstained from wine on earth,
for him do the vines of Paradise yearn.
Each one of them holds out to them a bunch of grapes.
And if a man had lived in chastity, they [feminine] receive him
in a pure bosom,
because he as a monk did not fall into the bosom
and bed of earthly love.
Here we clearly see St. Ephraim’s feeble attempts to spiritualize his sensual imagery.

Just a little earlier in the text (in strophy 15) we find a solitary virgin, abstinent in her earthly lives, being surrounded by male beings (prophets, angels, apostles) in the heavens:

The virgin who rejected
the marriage crown that fades
now has the radiant marriage chamber
that cherishes the children of light,
shining out because she rejected
the works of darkness-
To her who was alone
in a lonely house
the wedding feast now grants tranquility:
here angels rejoice,
prophets delight,
and apostles add splendor.


however,I have already answered you when i have written :

passenger wrote:

4- if you are christian and claim that you are muslim, i would like to remind you Genesis Chapter 2 24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh' the biblke claimed that God said this in garden of Edin.
Genesis Chapter 3 17And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
WHERE DID THEY EAT? WAS NOT IN garden of aden?

and i would like to remind you that you think  your god's mother  married ab old man @Joseph @ , so when they both die, will they be separated in God's kingdom? or will be stay married there? will he divorce her thre? but divorce is forbidden ?
whats about Matthew Chapter 19 29And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

maybe you will say : 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
ok read the context :Matthew 22 :28Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.'
i think you understand what it means!
let us back to 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
hmmm 'but are as he angels of God' but in Genesis Chapter 6  2That the sons of God (angels)saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

however,I have already answered you when i have written :

passenger wrote:

4- if you are christian and claim that you are muslim, i would like to remind you Genesis Chapter 2 24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh' the biblke claimed that God said this in garden of Edin.
Genesis Chapter 3 17And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
WHERE DID THEY EAT? WAS NOT IN garden of aden?

and i would like to remind you that you think  your god's mother  married ab old man @Joseph @ , so when they both die, will they be separated in God's kingdom? or will be stay married there? will he divorce her thre? but divorce is forbidden ?
whats about Matthew Chapter 19 29And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

maybe you will say : 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
ok read the context :Matthew 22 :28Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.'
i think you understand what it means!
let us back to 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
hmmm 'but are as he angels of God' but in Genesis Chapter 6  2That the sons of God (angels)saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Ismael King wrote:

So you believe in Virgins girls that Allah has in Heaven, but can't believe that he can have only one SON?

'19. And they make the angels who themselves are slaves to the Most Beneficent (Allah) females. Did they witness their creation? Their evidence will be recorded, and they will be questioned!
20. And they said: "If it had been the Will of the Most Beneficent (Allah), we should not have worshipped them (false deities)." They have no knowledge whatsoever of that. They do nothing but lie!
21. Or have We given them any Book before this (the Qur'an), to which they are holding fast?
22. Nay! They say: "We found our fathers following a certain way and religion, and we guide ourselves by their footsteps." Quraan, Surat Az-Zukhruf
'3. "He begets not, nor was He begotten;' Quraan, Surat Aliklas

85. Everyone shall taste death. And only on the Day of Resurrection shall you be paid your wages in full. And whoever is removed away from the Fire (hell) and admitted to Paradise, he indeed is successful. The life of this world is only the enjoyment of deception (a deceiving thing).' quraan, meanin

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Re: Why would GOD say these things in the Quran?

and if your objection about word of nikah which i have already told you the answer, then what is your opinion about theses words!
Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me.  I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house-- she who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine to drink [i.e., her vagina's semen!], the nectar of my pomegranates.  His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me."
hmm they were not a husband and a wife,and  what about her wishes about him being her brother?
Song of Songs 4:8-12
8 Come with me from Lebanon, my bride, come with me from Lebanon. Descend from the crest of Amana, from the top of Senir, the summit of Hermon, from the lions' dens and the mountain haunts of the leopards.
9 You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace.
10 How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!
11 Your lips drop sweetness as the honeycomb, my bride; milk and honey are under your tongue. The fragrance of your garments is like that of Lebanon.
12 You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain.
Song of Solomon 8:10 "Dear brothers, I'm a walled-in virgin still, but my breasts are full— And when my lover sees me, he knows he'll soon be satisfied."
4:5 "Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies."
1:13 "My lover is to me a sachet of myrrh resting between my breasts."

by the way Song of Songs belongs to David of the bible, and u have read what it was said there, but do you know your bible claim that King David is GOD's Begotten Son: "I (David) will declare the decree: the LORD had said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.  (The King James Version Bible, Psalm 2:7)"
2 Samuel 11:2-4  "One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, 'Isn't this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite?'  Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (She had purified herself from her uncleanness.) Then she went back home."
t 1King1:1-4 "When King David was old and well advanced in years, he could not keep warm even when they put covers over him.  So his servants said to him, 'Let us look for a young virgin to attend the king and take care of him. She can lie beside him so that our lord the king may keep warm.'  Then they searched throughout Israel for a beautiful girl and found Abishag, a Shunammite, and brought her to the king.  The girl was very beautiful; she took care of the king and waited on him, but the king had no intimate relations with her.
Esther 2:2-4 "Then the king's personal attendants proposed, 'Let a search be made for beautiful young virgins for the king.  Let the king appoint commissioners in every province of his realm to bring all these beautiful girls into the harem at the citadel of Susa. Let them be placed under the care of Hegai, the king's eunuch, who is in charge of the women; and let beauty treatments be given to them.  Then let the girl who pleases the king be queen instead of Vashti.' This advice appealed to the king, and he followed it."
and read Ezekiel chapter 23 2-40 it talks about 2 cities but in a way you really cant tell it to your daughter.

85. Everyone shall taste death. And only on the Day of Resurrection shall you be paid your wages in full. And whoever is removed away from the Fire (hell) and admitted to Paradise, he indeed is successful. The life of this world is only the enjoyment of deception (a deceiving thing).' quraan, meanin

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