Why Does God Allow Suffering?

Why Does God Allow Suffering?

Has God caused the suffering in the world?

What issue was raised in the garden of Eden?

How will God undo the effects of human suffering?

People of various religions have gone to their religious leaders and teachers to ask why there is so much suffering. Often, the response is that suffering is God’s will and that he long ago determined everything that would ever happen, including tragic events. Many are told that God’s ways are mysterious or that he brings death upon people—even children—so that he can have them in heaven with him. As you have learned, though, Jehovah God never causes what is bad. The Bible says: “Far be it from the true God to act wickedly, and the Almighty to act unjustly!”—Job 34:10.

The Bible clearly states: “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) When you think about it, does that not make sense? This world reflects the personality of the invisible spirit creature who is “misleading the entire inhabited earth.” (Revelation 12:9) Satan is hateful, deceptive, and cruel. So the world, under his influence, is full of hatred, deceit, and cruelty. That is one reason why there is so much suffering.

A second reason why there is so much suffering is that, as discussed in Chapter 3, mankind has been imperfect and sinful ever since the rebellion in the garden of Eden. Sinful humans tend to struggle for dominance, and this results in wars, oppression, and suffering. (Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9) A third reason for suffering is “time and unforeseen occurrence.”(Ecclesiastes 9:11) In a world without Jehovah as a protective Ruler, people may suffer because they happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

It is comforting for us to know that God does not cause suffering. He is not responsible for the wars, the crimes, the oppression, or even the natural disasters that cause people to suffer. Still, we need to know, Why does Jehovah allow all this suffering? If he is the Almighty, he has the power to stop it. Why, then, does he hold back? The loving God that we have come to know must have a good reason.—1 John 4:8.

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"But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace" (Psalm 37:11)

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Suffering is the result of our limited consciousness. When unlimited consciousness operates, we see the result in the form of joy and delight.

Epicurus advocated that "we should first seek to avoid suffering and that the greatest pleasure lies in a robust state of profound tranquility that is free from the worrisome pursuit or the unwelcome consequences of ephemeral pleasures."

Then of course it comes down to god and suffering:
1. If there is a God, He is, by definition, all powerful and all loving. In other words, if there is a God, he is a ‘good’ God.

2. A good, all powerful and all loving God would not allow pain and suffering to exist in His created world

3. Pain and suffering DO exist in our world

4. Therefore, there is no good, all powerful, all loving God

Why would a good God allow pain and suffering? Wouldn’t a good God create a world in which His creation experiences nothing but comfort, love and immediate gratification? Wouldn’t a good God want to eliminate pain and suffering?

If suffering has no meaning, God is either a monster or a myth. To this, I say God is indeed a myth.
The distribution of suffering, like the distribution of good fortune, is unequal, it is without moral. Suffering need have no cosmic meaning for a decent person to know that the only proper moral response is to try to ease the pain.

Suffering is man-made and/or a result of misfortune.

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Suffering is the result of our limited consciousness.

Who said there is limited consciousness?

When unlimited consciousness operates, we see the result in the form of joy and delight.

Why does unlimited consciousness co-exist with the limited? How did you come by this concept and how do you know it is an alternative explanation? Is it not simply what you choose to believe? You have no more proof for this belief system than you think I do.

Epicurus advocated that "we should first seek to avoid suffering and that the greatest pleasure lies in a robust state of profound tranquility that is free from the worrisome pursuit or the unwelcome consequences of ephemeral pleasures."

Who is Epicurus? Wasn't he just a man? Who said his philosophy was correct?

Then of course it comes down to god and suffering:
1. If there is a God, He is, by definition, all powerful and all loving. In other words, if there is a God, he is a ‘good’ God.

Correct. He has power, wisdom and justice as his cardinal qualities but his written word to mankind tells us, not that he HAS love, but that he IS love. That makes everything about him pivot on this one quality, defining each of his many qualities.

2. A good, all powerful and all loving God would not allow pain and suffering to exist in His created world

Correct again. There was no place for evil in the life that God purposed for his human family. The knowledge of evil was not supposed to be revealed to his human children. Obedience to his commands would have kept it from them forever.

3. Pain and suffering DO exist in our world

Unleashed by disobedient humans, enticed into defection by one who was already acquainted with it.

That was man's doing, not God's. Adam did not have to eat of the forbidden fruit. That was his choice. The devil did not need to defect; that was his choice. We are granted a marvelous gift...free will.

4. Therefore, there is no good, all powerful, all loving God

Yes there is. Your equation doesn't add up. The all powerful, all loving God had no desire for man to gain a knowledge of evil at all. But once it was unleashed, there was no taking it back. An object lesson would reveal the real wisdom of strictly obeying the voice of the one who made us.

Why would a good God allow pain and suffering?

The perfect balance in creation makes equal opposites a necessity. Positive and negative, up and down, in and out, light and dark, good and evil. All were to be in the realm of human experience, except one. Evil existed as an equal opposite of good, but the knowledge of it was to be kept from man, unless he chose to know it. If he made that choice, dire consequences would follow. The death penalty attached to the eating of this fruit should have been enough, but as t turned out, Adam desired to know evil and sentenced his progeny to the aftermath of his decision.

Wouldn’t a good God create a world in which His creation experiences nothing but comfort, love and immediate gratification? Wouldn’t a good God want to eliminate pain and suffering?

Look at the world where man has not spoiled it. It was meant to be wonderful...with many things for pure enjoyment, free from pain and suffering. It will go back to that under the rulership of God's kingdom, the "New "Jerusalem"." (Rev 21:1-4)


God endowed all his intelligent creation with the freedom to make choices. Our first parents made the wrong choice. There was not a single reason in the world for them to do that. When a law carries the death penalty and you break it, you suffer the consequences of your actions. Who do you blame?

Was their disobedience God's fault?

If suffering has no meaning, God is either a monster or a myth. To this, I say God is indeed a myth.

You will be able to tell him so yourself one day....but will he believe you?

The distribution of suffering, like the distribution of good fortune, is unequal, it is without moral. Suffering need have no cosmic meaning for a decent person to know that the only proper moral response is to try to ease the pain.

Do you expect a world controlled by the devil to have a fair distribution of anything? (1 John 5:19)

Why are some people good and others rotten to the core? Why are there some who are excellent humanitarians whilst others think only of themselves and will take all they want even if it belongs to someone else? What makes a person decent? Who gave humans their moral sense?...their inbuilt sense of justice?...their love of beauty and creativity? Why do animals not possess these qualities? Because only man is the reflection of his maker.

Suffering is man-made and/or a result of misfortune.

The Bible agrees with you.

Solomon wrote..."I returned to see under the sun that the swift do not have the race, nor the mighty ones the battle, nor do the wise also have the food, nor do the understanding ones also have the riches, nor do even those having knowledge have the favor; because time and unforeseen occurrence befall them all.  For man also does not know his time. Just like fishes that are being taken in an evil net, and like birds that are being taken in a trap, so the sons of men themselves are being ensnared at a calamitous time, when it falls upon them suddenly." (Eccl 9:11, 12)

"But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace" (Psalm 37:11)

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I believe that God is all knowing and powerful. Because of this, God created this earth and placed Adam and Eve upon it. He gave them two laws to live. One was to multiply and replenish the earth, and the other was to not partake of the forbidden fruit.

      If a person was born in the dark and never knew light, would they know what Light is? No one could explain to another and them to fully comprehend what light was. On the other hand they would not know darkness either. There has to be opposites in order for us to understand and compare one against the other. So if we are to understand what joy and happiness is, we have to know what pain and suffering is. If we are to know light, we must know darkness. If we are to understand Good, we must also understand evil. I believe in a perfect all knowing and powerful God, who is perfect and does not make mistakes. I believe he loves us perfectly and wanted us to understand all these things. It was his plan.

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Do you need to die in order to know what death is?

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Hmm..I like this topic. Very timely as there are a lot of sufferings that all people felt all over the world. Even the good ones, can also feel sufferings, hardships and pain.

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But why do we feel sometimes that when troubles, trials and pains comes one after another or maybe they arrived at the same time? How can a person understand and survive that?

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A lot of people are experiencing difficulty. Different types of hardships and pain. We should have try to comfort each other or help each other. Its but normal that sometimes we ask why GOD allow us to suffer right?

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We are not alone. There is something out there bigger than ourselves. Where will you go after you die? What do you believe and why do you believe it? What is the point of having a mind if you never change it? Here's a surprisingly unsurprising statistic: Everyone dies sooner or later; there is no escaping it and you will be dead for longer than you are alive. This suggests that eternity might be worth more than a passing thought.

Are you ready for the inevitable? There is no need to be fearful of that inevitable moment, so long as you are prepared and as long as you are not taking comfort in something that sounds nice but is really just positive but wishful thinking. Make your life journey count, consider your eternal destination. Just believing in a lie wont make it truth, no matter how much you want it or how appealing that lie is. It is better to know the truth than to live in the delusion of a lie. No one likes being deceived, but in a world of political correctness, acceptance and anything goes, it is easy to side-step the truth of reality. What REALLY is true?

Can we just make up our own truth and say "well that is true for you, but my truth is something else"? Surely we can't all be right, especially when there are so many contradictory beliefs and top world religions out there.